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housebuying, estimations & notes

January 6th, 2009 at 09:20 pm

Based on our max. amount we want to borrow ($350k) which is probably not how much we will eventually borrow, so these are generous amounts.

Deposit:
$3200 +
$4000 +
$10500 +
$4000 +
$14000
= $35700

Expenses:
$17500 + (5% deposit)
$7200 + (Mortgage Insurance)
$1200 + (Conveyancing & Legal Fees)
$600 + (Setup Fee)
$622 + (Transfer Fee)
$0 + (Stamp Duty is free for us)
= $27122

Excess: $8578

In the end we have much more than we though we would have.
Some notes:
The first home owners grant is given to everyone who applies, on their first purchase of a house. You can both be earning $100k a year and still get the FHOG. The reason it is doubled until June is because of the economical crisis, it was Rudd's way of trying to get people to buy homes. In our case it works out well because we were already planning on buying a home.

BF's mum has given us $4000 for some work BF did at her home. The majority of work is worth much MORE than $4000 (floor sanding and sealing, carpentry work, labour), but initially BF was doing it for free, as you do for your mum! BF's mum offered it as a help incase we needed it in the final stages of buying a home.

Please don't attack me for not getting married, anymore. I don't want to get married right now. Neither of us want to. Why is that such a big fucking deal to some people? Just because some people think it's a good idea, doesn't mean EVERYONE has to go and get married. Some people seem to think I'm a complete moron. I do REALISE what happens in this big bad adult world. I do THINK about the risks. I appreciate the CONCERN, (the honest concern - where people will mention it and then let it go) but not the JUDGEMENT and CRITICISM.

I have wanted my own home since I was about 14 and started working. BF has wanted a house since he was about 18. This was all years before we were together. When we had been together for a year and a half we touched the subject a few times, and we have steadily grown from there. For those of you who seem to think I don't want to buy a house, I don't really know where you're getting these ideas from. Has there been an entry where I have expressed regret in the way my life is turning out? Have I mentioned I think this is all a big mistake? Hmmm. I don't think so. You know WHY I haven't written entries about those issues? Because I don't think those things. The only reason I am addressing this now is because I want to make it perfectly clear that I know what I'm doing. Just incase ANYONE was wondering.

I'm not writing this because I have some deep psychological issues. I'm just writing this to address previous comments (some deleted) and any future comments.


19 Responses to “housebuying, estimations & notes”

  1. mom-from-missouri Says:
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    Will you also have inspection fees??
    Here we also have to pay to have our utilities transferred as well, so that may be another cost to figure in.

  2. gamecock43 Says:
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    ok, first- what does this mean? Deposit:
    $3200 +
    $4000 +
    $10500 +
    $4000 +
    $14000
    = $35700

    (I get that it adds up to $35,700..but why was it broken up into various deposits?)

    Second- no criticism here about buying a house without being married. They say its complicated to break up a house after a break up, but I'm guessing you will make preparations for that and I look forward to reading about all the options available to you to purchase a house together unmarried.

  3. whitestripe Says:
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    mfm: hadn't thought of the utilities! thanks! the only thing that i can think we will have to pay for is our internet to be transferred, which is $49. everything else will be fine. and the building inspections we have a friend that will do for us Smile
    gamecock: $3200 (me) $4000 (BF's mums payment) $10500 (BF) $4000 is what we have saved over the holidays but haven't deposited into our savings accounts yet (I know, terrible!) and $14000 is the FHOG. Smile (and thanks for the second comment i appreciate it)

  4. ceejay74 Says:
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    Who the heck is criticizing you for getting a house together unmarried? I did it with my girlfriend, and we still aren't married (for several reasons, one of which being it's legally impossible where I live). If we split up, we'd each have 50% right to the house. Better than some poor suckers I know, who after a divorce lose their house and a good deal of their future earnings too. LOL (I know I'm simplifying things to make a point, so nobody jump on me.) Wink

  5. NJDebbie Says:
    1231280155

    I think you might be a little stressed out already. Don't worry about what people have to say. Stay true to yourself and do what you think is right.

  6. whitestripe Says:
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    thanks ceejay & debbie Smile i had a comment on my previous entry which i replied to, which i then got more stuff thrown at me, so i ended up just deleting all the comments.

    then i decided to address it in this entry.

    i really don't mind all the other people who only mention it out of concern (merch, disneysteve - what they say is perfectly fine) but i DO NOT like it when people put me down because they think their way is better. maybe some people are just better at writing than other people and have a better idea of choice and individuality, and some people just don't know how to say something without sticking their foot in their mouth and down their throat.

    and debbie, i'm not really stressed out, i just wanted to say something so i don't have to keep saying it over and over again. otherwise then it might just start stressing me out! Big Grin

  7. gruntina Says:
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    Do what is true to you and not worry about other people say about marriage. I just want to bring up a point but it might be a moot where you live according to laws.

    Where I live, unmarried couples who lived together more than two years is considered common law marriage(this various amount different states here), if a break-up is to happen, it is possible the house must be split up like one would in a divorce case. To ensure this house is your own home, check into see if there are documents you can sign to support that and to protect yourself.

  8. whitestripe Says:
    1231281308

    gruntina: we are getting contracts drawn up by a solicitor, it has always been the plan Smile

  9. LilMsMissy Says:
    1231282761

    I think you would have been better off addressing me directly......... I tend to be quite opinionated if you can't handle it than oh fucking well.

  10. whitestripe Says:
    1231285010

    well according to you and your previous comments:
    -i'm a very silly person
    -i don't listen to those that are 'older than me' (you're a year older than me. big freaking woop)
    -i have self esteem issues (?)
    -apparently the above self esteem issues, lilmsmissy being a psychologist and everything, come from a comment i made where i said i was happy with myself... LOL
    -i should not be buying a house
    -apparently i don't want to buy a house (?)
    -i am asking for a handout from the government
    -oh, and mummy and daddy
    -we should make a committment on paper in marriage, because we are making a commitment to a bank.
    -BF should be putting a ring on my finger because we've been together 6 years.

    yes, i agree. you are opinionated.

    but you are not the only person on this site.
    'I'm just writing this to address previous comments (some deleted) AND ANY FUTURE COMMENTS.'


  11. lilmsmissy Says:
    1231287500

    GROW UP!!! This is a public website in which you post every single detail about your life and financial info online for any and every one who browses the internet too see. There are going to be times when you will receive comments that you feel maybe NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE. However, if someone says something you don't like why don't you just delete. Not go back and forth that's elementary stuff. lol HIDE YOUR PROFILE or tell all your business on myspace where you can post things at your discretion. People are going to say whatever they like you just have to be the GROWN UP sometimes and learn to IGNORE it. Have a wonderful day and nice New Years Sweetheart.

    CHOP IT!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Koppur Says:
    1231288560

    Ok, Lilmsmissy, you are being way rude. Yes, this is a public place where we post our opinions, but at this forum, we all respect each others personal ideas, situations, and decisions. We give advice, sometimes constructive criticism, but we don't call name, swear at people or start little wars. We also respect the fact that each of us got to where we are financially by a different path, and are in a different place.

    Quoting yoou"
    "I tend to be quite opinionated if you can't handle it than oh fucking well. "

    Seems to me you are being opinionated and immature, swearing at the author here. If you don't like someones post or situation, don't comment on it. But drop the attitude. We are all friends here and we support each other and your attitude and rudeness will not be tolerated.


    Whitestripe, I say go for your dreams and don't let anyone get in the way. I'm almost 31, have been w/my BF over 2 years, lived with him over 2 years, and am in no way looking for marriage right now! Nothing at all wrong with that! Do what makes you happy and step on the people who make you feel bad for that.

  13. whitestripe Says:
    1231288692

    if this is so immature and elementary for you, why in the HELL do you keep coming back??? this is MY blog, i can comment on other people's comments, delete them, and write all the entries i want. if you don't like it, don't read them, and don't comment on them. ditto, it's a frigging public website. i didn't agree with you, and i told you that, and i told you the reasons for it. so why don't YOU deal with it.

  14. whitestripe Says:
    1231288810

    ps thanks koppur. i miss the old times when there wasn't any of this narky stuff all the time. lots of people seem to have problems. it seems to be increasing.

  15. Koppur Says:
    1231288912

    I know, whitestripe. I've been here 3 years and everyone has always been so supportive and friendly, but lately it seems there have been some ultra-critical comments. I had one last week, too. Stupid people. Smile

  16. scfr Says:
    1231294029

    Are things like survey, title search, and title insurance included in the "Conveyance & Legal Fees" category?

    A couple other expenses that pop in to my mind to allow for are:
    - Homeowner's Insurance (perhaps the first 6 months upfront? depends on your insurance company)
    - Homeowner's Associaton fee (if there is one)
    - Plain old moving costs (truck rental, boxes, etc.)
    - Stuff like cable hookup ... Plus time off work to pay for the doggone cable guy to show up. Smile
    We've been through the homebuying process twice, and the bottom line is that little things pop up here and there the further along you get in the process ... and a little here and a little there can start to add up to quite a bit. Maybe you could add a "buffer" (say 5-10%) to whatever you estimate your costs to be, just to be safe?

  17. whitestripe Says:
    1231294742

    thanks scfr. we will be organising insurance but we'll be factoring that into our monthly budget. yes all those fees you mentioned are in the conveyancing and legal fees. we don't have cable Smile so that won't be a problem for us. and we don't need to hire removalists or rent a truck because BF's work car is a van, we've done two moves with it already. the left over sum will probably cover this stuff, and whatever we have left will be socked away for later on.

  18. Analise Says:
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    whitestripe ~ I am delighted for you that you are buying a home in partnership with your BF. Both of my DDs bought homes with their BFs years before they got married and it was not a big deal to me, our families, or anyone else. Frankly, I was happy my DDs/BFs were being financially smart.

    This is the 21st century for crying out loud and it irks me that people can be so judgmental and close-minded. If you had bought a home with a sibling or a girlfriend, would they have cared or commented? IMO, the ones with the issues are those whose comments are so negative you have to delete them, and I'm glad you did.

  19. whitestripe Says:
    1231744239

    thankyou analise. i guess for some people it is just hard to be nice. i enjoy leaving nice comments for people, and it's one of the main reasons i love this site so much, because the majority of the people are accepting and not judgemental, they voice their concerns for you but aren't pushy, are happy for people when they make financial decisions that benefit their future. Smile

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